Trung Dung / Dien Khanh
A-502, 5th SFGA (PCS)
A-133, 1st SFGA (TDY)
A-131B, 1st SFGA (TDY)
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Dien Khan
| Harlow Short
* Medic |
Shaun Darragh | John Key SSGT 11F4S Both Bunk House and Blue Bandit Teams |
| Donald
Goodwin, Sgt. |
Pete Estrada, [MSG, Ret] | Jean Lavaud,
SSGT. 05B4S |
| Robert Chaplin,
[SGM, Ret.] 91B4SW9 |
William Sheffield,
Capt. 31542 |
Wayne Cox Sgt |
| Jim Euel Tolbert, [SFC, Ret.] | Bill Shreve, E-6 05B4S |
Carl Wilson [SFC, Ret] 05B4S |
| Tom Ross, 1LT [Maj., Ret] | Huong
Le (Robbie) Combat Interpreter |
Info from: Harlow Short
Camp Tung Dung was located at the villiage of Dien Khanh, just over the mountain from Nha Trang. We provided the security for the Nha Trang AO. Camp was turned it over to MACV in early '70
Another item I might point out is that "A-502 Soui Dau" was simply one of Trung Dung's major outposts, so when we closed A-502 it closed as well. We had 10 outposts of which three or four where major ones: Soui Dau, Bin Thanh (on the river), Thuy Thu, My Loc / Nui Ti and perhaps Da Hang (up on the mtns overlooking Nha Trang). We kept Americans at these at least every night. ...Harlow Short.
From Harlow Short:One) The dates shown for the establishment of Detachment A-502 Trung Dung (Feb. 1964) is wrong if we are talking about the activation of the Team / Detachment [Ed: See CMH information below.] According to Art Fields, the first team sgt., the first American SF personnel were assigned to the new Detachment effective Dec. 1964, but the camp which was to be the detachment headquarters, and which took its name from a near by village, was an existing Vietnamese LLDB camp - perhaps the date of this camp's establishment is where the Feb. 1964 date comes from. It originally occupied the area which later became the sites for the Recondo School and the Delta compounds; and this leads to the second problem:
Two) Confusion over Camp names and Detachment names. The detachment name was A-502 Trung Dung, which - like most A detachment names, originally co-incided with the main camp name. However, A-502 covered a large area and had many outposts and secondary camps. The primary secondary camp at that time was located in the southern perimeter of a old French fort next to the village of Dien Khanh. Sometime in 1965 the decision was made to separate responsiblity for area wide security and 'internal' security for Nha Trang. A-502 was split, and its XO, Lt. Hobby became the CO of the newly created A-503, with the responsibility for 'internal' security. A-503 eventually evolved into a MIKE force. A-502, under the command of Cpt. Day, moved out of the original main camp at Tung Dung and set up its headquarters at the former secondary camp at Dien Khanh.
So Detachment A-502 Tung Dung, ended up headquartered at Camp Dien Khanh; and Camp Trung Dung closed. This is where the date for a camp closure in Dec. 1965 apparently came from - but in A-502's case, Camp Trung Dung's closure did not represent Detactment A-502 Tung Dung's de-activation. It is somewhat confusing - hell, I was stationed there and I mixed the Detachment name and the Camp name up all the time. I think the info you have listed for the closure of Camp Dien Khanh in Dec. 1965 is just a reflection of this confusion over camp and detachment names, for Camp Dien Khanh was alive and well until the end of Jan. 1970 when the Detachment, with all its camps and outposts, was finally de-activated.
**Confirmation from Jim Everett:, A-502 My Loc, A-502 not closed in '65. Trung Dung was the main base for A-502 in old French fort adjacent to town. Had typical fort profile but part next to town was really open.
For more complete information about A-502 visit:
Detachment A-502 'Trung Dung'
| A-502 | Dien Khanh | Khanh Hoa Province | Opened: Feb 64 | Dec 65 closed * |
* CMH Publication 90-23.
Department of the Army. Washington, D.C. 1989 (First Printed, 1973); Appendix
C
[Ed: Obviously, the information from the CMH Pub. about the closing date is
either incorrect or incomplete.]
[Ed: See information above from Harlow Short and Jim Everett about camp names,
openings, closings, etc. For more complete information about A-502 visit: Detachment
A-502 'Trung Dung']
| A-502 | Thrung Dung | Khanh Hoa Province | Opened: Mar 64 | 31 Jan 70 converted to MACV ** |
* CMH Publication 90-23.
Department of the Army. Washington, D.C. 1989 (First Printed, 1973); Appendix
C
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*** First Special Forces Group (Airborne) Annual Historical Summary: 1965. TDY teams '64 and '65
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